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Old 08-28-2017, 12:16 PM   #1
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Nightwing samples

Still working on these. Spent too long on these pages, still need to render them.






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Old 08-28-2017, 12:41 PM   #2
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:27 PM   #3
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Nice!

This is all digital? very nice for coloring is this why it is only line art?

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Old 08-28-2017, 01:29 PM   #4
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Awesome but too mid-shots the first page is awesome with the background
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:39 PM   #5
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I think this is very good if done in digital good line control but page two is in need for panel two needs a bit adjustment on girl's face and hands.

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Thanks I did everything on paper first, scanned it in, wasn't happy with the line quality. I then just used manga studio for the first time and drew on my UGEE 1910b, over and over again. Meant to try and get it done at a page a day, but been nearly a month now.

Still going to add the blacks / shading to it. Still learning
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A couple points of criticism:

Some of the faces look pretty strange. The most notable are those two girls on page two. Their expressions seem so pronounced that it looks like a parody to me. I'm not sure if that look is intentional or not. If the girls have been joker gassed or something, then it's okay.

Also, the scene with the horses and carriages... It looks like you copied and pasted the same image over and over again, and it looks really unnatural, in my opinion. If those are meant to represent real horses (and not statues or something), I don't believe they would be standing so uniformly. I'd draw one with its head down, one looking another way, or something like that.
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Neil, I find your criticisms very odd. You generally seem very strict on what needs fixing then at the end of it your post links to your work and it's mainly done with crayons and has alot of room for improvement.

That being said thanks, I'll work on my head constructions.
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Wow..... have to say Kevinharte36, that whether you like Neil's artwork or not, that his crits are still valid. If you haven't noticed, alot of people have left comments on his work too.

Keep it civil and adult. A good crit is still valid whoever posts it.
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:12 PM   #10
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Neil, I find your criticisms very odd. You generally seem very strict on what needs fixing then at the end of it your post links to your work and it's mainly done with crayons and has alot of room for improvement.

That being said thanks, I'll work on my head constructions.
jeez. super douche response...the whole "i think my arts better than yours therefore any critiques you make are invalid. because I'm better than you".

a person can have zero drawing ability and still offer up thoughts and insight. stuff you should pay attention to.
I thought the critique offered up was nicely put and very accurate. it wasn't a tear down of you personally or your skills or your work as a whole. it offered some thoughts you should listen to, and you come back with "I draw better than you, so you don't know what you are talking about."

says more about you than anything else.

so..as for my thoughts...
the first thing I noticed was the perspective on that arch in the background is WAY off. how can you not see that?

I like the characters and their period specific clothing.
everything is pretty clean and clear, tho I don't personally like art like this without any rendering, but that's totally a preference.
yes..some faces look kinda weird.
I don't like the obvious all-digital looking nature of all this. again, that's just me.

so..thats my thoughts...
oh..and my art.. here..https://robnor101.deviantart.com/
in case you want to tell me my opinions aren't valid because you are a better artist.
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Neil, I find your criticisms very odd. You generally seem very strict on what needs fixing then at the end of it your post links to your work and it's mainly done with crayons and has alot of room for improvement.

That being said thanks, I'll work on my head constructions.
Your pages are grim, your faces are indeed wonky as shit, and your attitude is akin to that of a child.
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@sevans Will do.
@12013 No problem thanks for the feedback.
@MattTriano Yeah ok. Grim I don't agree with as I haven't set the mood yet with the rendering. If I used alot of shadow/blacks with the final rendering that would set the mood. Your work on the other hand on your tumblr has a very heavy use of shadows which one could also say is grim because it's mostly dark/overcast.
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@12013 No problem thanks for the feedback.
@MattTriano Yeah ok. Grim I don't agree with as I haven't set the mood yet with the rendering. If I used alot of shadow/blacks with the final rendering that would set the mood. Your work on the other hand on your tumblr has a very heavy use of shadows which one could also say is grim because it's mostly dark/overcast.
Grim means 'not so good,' I wasn't referring to dark/light balance. Your storytelling, drawing (esp smiles) and panel layouts are lacking. I'm being overly blunt with you because you were a c*nt to Neil, insulting his work because he gave you a critique you didn't like -- but a valid critique nonetheless. You came back with venom. That's grim as well. It bodes poorly for you.
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