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eDuke
12-12-2018, 06:56 PM
Give it to me...what would you like to see here implemented on the site?

Steven Forbes
12-12-2018, 07:13 PM
And the flood gates have been opened...

12013
12-12-2018, 11:22 PM
Im not sure what to suggest. What could be done thats not already available? What options are there?

sevans
12-13-2018, 06:59 AM
Sometimes I lack motivation or a subject to actually draw.

How about a monthly drawing challenge?

eDuke
12-13-2018, 12:12 PM
Sometimes I lack motivation or a subject to actually draw.

How about a monthly drawing challenge?

Oooo. I like that!

Bishop
12-13-2018, 05:21 PM
I love the drawing challenge idea. Those were fun when we did those in the past.

It would be cool if Q&A's could be scheduled with some industry pro's. Kind of an AMA type thing.

eDuke
12-13-2018, 06:45 PM
It would be cool if Q&A's could be scheduled with some industry pro's. Kind of an AMA type thing.

Been thinking about doing this for Digital Webbing Live, the YouTube channel.

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 12:01 PM
Active mods that post weekly challenges. Polls. Drawing and writing prompt. A "hookup" area.
Hookup area example: Hey you wanna draw/write/letter something for fun to post to the boards? Sure, Sounds fun.

Bring back the chat area or like we briefly discussed use that Slack account so anyone can drop in and out and chat.

A true pimping area

Make Rob and Bishop a mod of the art area. Let me mod the writing area...

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 12:03 PM
And the flood gates have been opened...

It amuses me that Forbes appears every chance Ed posts. Not sure why... but it does.

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 12:13 PM
A monthly fight club.
Every month, two people fight, not real fighting (I would pay to see that.) But, a challenge where poster x challenges poster y to a fight over something. I can draw the best Spider-man punching Batman or I can write this dialogue about how to eat a ham sandwich better than you.

Mod drops a poll. Everyone votes. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.
just like in Fight Club everyone fights. You don't fight. Your vote doesn't count.

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 12:36 PM
Bring back Digital Webbing Presents. Reboot the damn thing from the ground up. Make it 100% digital.

A bi-monthly newsletter. What's Ed Dukshire lettering? Was there something being crowdfunded you thought looked cool. Spotlight an artist from the board.

eDuke
12-14-2018, 12:56 PM
Anymore, Paul? LOL

eDuke
12-14-2018, 01:07 PM
Bring back Digital Webbing Presents. Reboot the damn thing from the ground up. Make it 100% digital.

Was there something being crowdfunded you thought looked cool. Spotlight an artist from the board.

- DWP: I really want to bring this back. Was putting out feelers a few months ago but once I researched the state of the industry and it also brought up old memories of creators trashing on me if they were rejected... made me rethink it. I'll eventually figure out how to proceed with it.

- Crowdfunding: I'm a big believer in this. Lots of projects wouldn't see the light of day without it. When I first dove into it, I had dreams it was a community of creators all pitching in and supporting each other... but that didn't really happen. Currently the most successful ones are created by well-established pros or people that have a huge social media reach. The Digital Webbing YouTube channel (once it gets rolling, it's already launched) will focus on promoting cool projects tho.

- Spotlighting Creators: This goes all the way back to when I first launched this site and it's definitely something I want to implement back in. I started experimenting with it utilizing the front page and created tiles pointing to forum posts. I saw some of the view counts bump up, but it ended up being a lot of work and little draw. There used to be a monthly spotlight which I may bring back where I pick one creator and create a showcase page for them. It'd be cool to make it like an ArtStation page.

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 01:22 PM
Anymore, Paul? LOL

Oh, I have.

paul brian deberry
12-14-2018, 01:27 PM
A workshop. Similar to what Rob did with the Hellboy stuff. None of that Kickstarter crap or public domain stuff.

Poll together a hero and a theme.
Bring together a team.
Write. Draw. Letter. Have fun.

Bishop
12-14-2018, 04:58 PM
Been thinking about doing this for Digital Webbing Live, the YouTube channel.

That would be awesome

12013
12-14-2018, 06:26 PM
A workshop. Similar to what Rob did with the Hellboy stuff. None of that Kickstarter crap or public domain stuff.

Poll together a hero and a theme.
Bring together a team.
Write. Draw. Letter. Have fun.

I just wanted the work that so many people put in to be able to be seen and utilized anywhere and everywhere a person wanted to take it. I know that for me, if a project has a chance of being seen..SOMEwhere...like a finished lettered project...that reads as a complete and whole story, im MUCH more interested in giving my all to the project. but being serious, if its just a few of us just putting something together just for the hell of it with no real plan...then..why would I care as much?
I will admit that that is basically what the xmen projects were but we still pulled together quite the group with a LOT of solid work. and the Hellboy thing much more so, as it turned into a book that could actually be read and had a definitive beginning, middle and end. and that was really done just for the hell of it. so I don't know what it was made people interested but what I DO know..based on my experience, is that it needs to be a solid an simple enough premise that anyone can get in on AND it absolutely MUST have someone commited to seeing it thru to the end as a "project manager" or sorts.. handing out "assignments" and recruiting creators and posting consistently to keep peoples interest peaked with a definitive GOAL we are working towards. if its just us saying "hey...lets all do this" and then its left to us all just doing whatever we want whenever want with no "push", nothing will happen.

sorry..im just rambling here..streaming my thoughts as they come. im just completely convinced that we have a massive resource here.. those xmen and hellboy projects showed that when things run right and gel right, we actually CAN produce a finished book that actually looks pretty damn good. what was the hellboy book page count...80 or so? we can make comics here...decent ones..we have all the talent needed right here.

it just has to be focused properly. and a goal to push for brings all the boys to the yard so to speak. the DWP seems to excite people being that its a thing that actually has a name attached to it that the industry knows and gets us all a chance to put something out there that will be seen by more readers than any of us would have a chance to otherwise(even if that number is still small). its a shame that, based on Ed's post up there, that it became kind of a bitch with creators giving him shit. some people get picked. some don't.

heres what I think. I know another small publisher that's putting out tons of books with his small press imprint. utilizing public domain characters and their own stuff. tons of books available to digital release and some print. most as small as 8 page stories. BUT..im my opinion, the problem is that the stuff is SO BORING. its ALL cliché standard superhero fare.. or pulp hero stuff..but everything is stuff ive seen before..done better(especially most of the art). all these people are giving their all..doing their best. but its all completely generic.

I want to see creators bust out and be able to do some indie stuff that pushes boundries. not just safe all ages boring super hero stuff. I would like a format that lets us do something different. dark. edgy. sexy. DWP "dark" or DWP "mature".
kids don't read comics. lets write some stuff that's to the audience that's actually out there and will read this stuff. something new and different unique indie creator stuff with no limits(well, almost none). THATS what id be interested in and put MY best efforts into.
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anyway..ill chime out now.... sorry.. haha.

Facundo Ezequiel
12-16-2018, 02:33 PM
All of the above.

I like what everyone is saying and I really want to see what kind of content comes out of the YouTube channel, I'm already subscribed with that bell thing on and all.

Everyone these days seem to have a podcast, and for me that's definitely a must for when I'm working and I can't take the time to look at the heads talking. Even if it's a monthly thing it would be great to hear the DW perspective on things like workflow, comic book formats, genres, etc. It would be wonderful to go as technical as possible with every subject and having guests that can expand on it with real life examples of how everything works.

Anyone here uses Discord? It's great for the community stuff like having silly conversations through chat or with voice in real time, sharing images, videos and all of that. The forum is great for the timeless stuff and to have discussions stored neatly, but I think for quick conversations and the not so serious stuff Discord is great.

I want DW to gain more ground again, so we should be doing what everyone is doing and then some.

PixelisedMind
12-16-2018, 06:13 PM
Increasing the user base is important, and these days content is key for doing that. A balance between resource, entertainment and social space.

Articles, interviews catered towards new creators and those already involved in the industry would be great, but require staff (you may have this option, I don't know). Video casts and video workshops and tutorials may be too resource heavy right away. I believe that the main resource is user generated on the forum though, as it has been in the past, and you wouldn't require these other things with a healthier population.

I personally think that Podcasts are a strong way to go, and less involved when it comes to creating (writing, editing, etc). They're a good way to talk shop in a more casual manner, you can cover a whole range of discussions linked to comics that could be accompanied by simple related articles or transcripts, or a dedicated forum post for listeners/creators old and new to talk it over, especially if those involved in the episode take part (possibly with an Ask Me Anything). It's a good way to drive that niche traffic to the forums.

It'd be nice to get a bunch of regular guests with enough experience to really delve into the business and the creative side, but also perhaps nice to see something from DW alumni, a spotlight show or a discussion on how they've progressed due to (or in part because of) their use of the website. It's on topic, but drives attention to the website and forum.

If it helps bring traffic back, then it hopefully opens up talent that can get involved with DWP, which in itself brings back attention to the forum, but also offers a lot of conversation for a podcast.

sevans
12-16-2018, 10:50 PM
Just my extra 2 cents...don't do the rambling epic 2 hour videos or podcasts.

You can show some real time etc, but please edit the 'filler'.
Unless your Frank Frazetta I don't need to see it all.

paul brian deberry
12-17-2018, 07:06 PM
oooohhh Digital Webbing podcast.

I want this more than anything!

eDuke
12-17-2018, 07:44 PM
oooohhh Digital Webbing podcast.

I want this more than anything!

I'm really having a tough time getting people involved with this. Are you up for it, Paul? Pick a bunch of times and send me a PM.

paul brian deberry
12-17-2018, 08:41 PM
That seems crazy.

B-McKinley
12-19-2018, 05:41 PM
I've been wondering if there is a comic-equivalent to NaNoWriMo. I know about 24-Hour-Comic Day, but it's just a little too all or nothing. I think there's probably a space for something slower paced. And it naturally connects both to a sequence of weekly (daily?) challenges and potential anthologies.

The other thing that I can't find yet is a good place for accountability partnering (that isn't an overloaded social network). The "what did you do this week" thread is pretty close to that idea, but I almost imagine it like an informal help wanted area.

eDuke
12-26-2018, 03:30 PM
I've been wondering if there is a comic-equivalent to NaNoWriMo. I know about 24-Hour-Comic Day, but it's just a little too all or nothing. I think there's probably a space for something slower paced. And it naturally connects both to a sequence of weekly (daily?) challenges and potential anthologies.

The other thing that I can't find yet is a good place for accountability partnering (that isn't an overloaded social network). The "what did you do this week" thread is pretty close to that idea, but I almost imagine it like an informal help wanted area.

I'm not sure what NaNoWriMo is.
The other thing you mention sounds more like blog-like posts?

sevans
12-26-2018, 06:21 PM
After rereading some of these posts, I second the idea from Rob about a project with a more mature theme.

He is correct, comics are for adults now. Xbox and internet are for the kids.
We need an overall goal to work towards...that we can then create 'how to' or 'work in progress' content.

Bishop
12-27-2018, 01:28 PM
I want to see creators bust out and be able to do some indie stuff that pushes boundries. not just safe all ages boring super hero stuff. I would like a format that lets us do something different. dark. edgy. sexy. DWP "dark" or DWP "mature".
kids don't read comics. lets write some stuff that's to the audience that's actually out there and will read this stuff. something new and different unique indie creator stuff with no limits(well, almost none). THATS what id be interested in and put MY best efforts into.


I love this idea. In my mind the problem is that so many creators think 'mature/edgy/sexy' means you just have to throw in a bunch of f-bombs, gore, and gratuitous t&a. To me that stuff isn't mature, it's the opposite.

eDuke
12-27-2018, 01:53 PM
After rereading some of these posts, I second the idea from Rob about a project with a more mature theme.

He is correct, comics are for adults now. Xbox and internet are for the kids.
We need an overall goal to work towards...that we can then create 'how to' or 'work in progress' content.

I don't agree with this. Kids (under the age of 18) still read comics which is why you don't see all publishers switch everything to a mature only rating. Comics can still be aimed at mature readers without labeling them mature comics.

pandayboss
12-28-2018, 07:50 PM
I really like the idea of bringing back DWP! It's been awhile that we see new generation of DWP projects here. After the later years of 2000, I've seen the changes of materials around and across comics scenes and the coming age of digital comics like comixology. Comics have evolved into a modern age main stream I think. Marvel Comics, DC and Dark Horse and other big names that came about have changed so much, that even Jim Lee's style now is different (my opinion). I think it's time that we follow and join the change. Maybe a new kind of DWP.

What I want to add here is this: why don't we have a show case of different stories in different genre threads? We would have horror, sci-fi, hard-boiled and fantasy etc. Any team would produce their best product and showcase only 3-4 pages including a mock cover with a short synopsis. Each entry would be 6-8 pages and up to maximum 10 pages. All entries would be inked and colored except lettering which could be optional too. You, Eduke, would have your editing team to look through and approved any entry/ies to be included in the DWP issues for the line up submissions to Comixology.

Just an idea...:D

B-McKinley
12-31-2018, 12:46 PM
I'm not sure what NaNoWriMo is.
The other thing you mention sounds more like blog-like posts?

NaNoWriMo is national novel writing month (November). People challenge themselves to write 50K words of a novel in one month. After writing it down, it occurred to me that in theory comics are usually created in one month, but in practice it takes longer than that for a lot of people professional and otherwise.

Accountability coaching/partners is a concept where you have a peer who you check in with on a regular (often weekly) basis. You usually each set goals and then at the next appointment discuss your success (or not) in reaching the goal. It's not so much about critiquing, as it is about having someone hold you accountable so you have a stronger incentive to keep making progress. Usually it's set up as a mutual arrangement.

eDuke
01-01-2019, 01:38 PM
Comics have evolved into a modern age main stream I think. Marvel Comics, DC and Dark Horse and other big names that came about have changed so much, that even Jim Lee's style now is different (my opinion). I think it's time that we follow and join the change. Maybe a new kind of DWP.

I'm probably the last guy on earth who would be good for this type of book. I'm just not a fan of new mainstream comics. I get that there are lots of people out there that love the ultra-realistic style of art we're seeing nowadays (and I'm not saying it's bad) but I lean more towards the stylistic type of art from older comics.

As far as DWP is concerned, I did a lot of thinking on this because I do want to bring it back, but I want to avoid all the bad experiences and financial burden I had with it in its first go. I love the idea of creator-owned and I believe everyone should focus on getting their ideas out there. Nowadays we're at a point where people can just post their creations online or do print-on-demand, I don't think there's a need for a collaborative anthology like DWP was.

12013
01-01-2019, 06:26 PM
I'm probably the last guy on earth who would be good for this type of book. I'm just not a fan of new mainstream comics. I get that there are lots of people out there that love the ultra-realistic style of art we're seeing nowadays (and I'm not saying it's bad) but I lean more towards the stylistic type of art from older comics.

As far as DWP is concerned, I did a lot of thinking on this because I do want to bring it back, but I want to avoid all the bad experiences and financial burden I had with it in its first go. I love the idea of creator-owned and I believe everyone should focus on getting their ideas out there. Nowadays we're at a point where people can just post their creations online or do print-on-demand, I don't think there's a need for a collaborative anthology like DWP was.

so how about a book where people submit their already completed works... 8-10 pages max, adheres to your guidelines of acceptable content.. etc..etc..

Steven Forbes
01-01-2019, 06:53 PM
so how about a book where people submit their already completed works... 8-10 pages max, adheres to your guidelines of acceptable content.. etc..etc..


That's a good way to get work that isn't usable.

It should be something that's a theme or whatever that's agreed upon, and then stories are pitched, with no more than a page of sample artwork from the prospective artist. This way content starts being curated right away, and creators aren't producing work that won't get published because they aren't yet ready.

I also suggest that there's only one letterer for the entire book. Yes, it sucks, but this will stop the quality from being wildly different from story to story in a single book. (It will also lighten my load a little when it comes to editing.) We can change up the letterer from issue to issue, but not from story to story.

Just an idea.
-Steven

Scribbly
01-02-2019, 12:30 PM
That's a good way to get work that isn't usable.

It should be something that's a theme or whatever that's agreed upon, and then stories are pitched, with no more than a page of sample artwork from the prospective artist. This way content starts being curated right away, and creators aren't producing work that won't get published because they aren't yet ready.

I also suggest that there's only one letterer for the entire book. Yes, it sucks, but this will stop the quality from being wildly different from story to story in a single book. (It will also lighten my load a little when it comes to editing.) We can change up the letterer from issue to issue, but not from story to story.

Just an idea.
-Steven

I agree with this. Less talk and more walk. How to make comics or podcasts about comics we can find a lot at yutubey's , websites & blogs.
We are here for comics making. Lets make comics.
We can vote for what genre or theme and start working the scripts and artwork from there. As we did already.

For avoiding former bad experiences and financial burden, such material could be published later on some Comixology place or whatsoever.
And see what happen.

If the material works well, maybe eDuke or somebody else would like bring the whole book to printed format.

My two cents.

NatMatt
01-03-2019, 12:45 AM
I agree with this. Less talk and more walk. How to make comics or podcasts about comics we can find a lot at yutubey's , websites & blogs.
We are here for comics making. Lets make comics.
We can vote for what genre or theme and start working the scripts and artwork from there. As we did already.

For avoiding former bad experiences and financial burden, such material could be published later on some Comixology place or whatsoever.
And see what happen.

If the material works well, maybe eDuke or somebody else would like bring the whole book to printed format.

My two cents.

If I could offer my two cents, I'd say we should consider going with a single theme for DWP (if we're moving forward with it of course). Something genre related like horror or Sci-fi, like what Alterna's IF anthology does every year. It keeps things consistent and doesn't result in a whole mesh of random stories collected into a single anthology. Also, while I don't totally agree with the idea of a single letterers I think it would probably be a good idea to have a small select handful of letterers and colorists to avoid things from getting too muddled. Last thing, I think it would be best if it's distributed through Comixology and 100% digital. As great as it would be to see it on print, I feel this would help ease some of the financial burden.

Again, these are just my two cents on the matter. Like many artists here, I really want to see DWP return. Rob said it best, we all want to get published and see our work get recognition. I personally want something like DWP to succeed even if I don't get to be apart of it. Let's keep these ideas coming and hopefully we can come to some type of compromise that gets DWP back on print.

eDuke
01-14-2019, 03:33 PM
If I could offer my two cents, I'd say we should consider going with a single theme for DWP (if we're moving forward with it of course). Something genre related like horror or Sci-fi, like what Alterna's IF anthology does every year. It keeps things consistent and doesn't result in a whole mesh of random stories collected into a single anthology. Also, while I don't totally agree with the idea of a single letterers I think it would probably be a good idea to have a small select handful of letterers and colorists to avoid things from getting too muddled. Last thing, I think it would be best if it's distributed through Comixology and 100% digital. As great as it would be to see it on print, I feel this would help ease some of the financial burden.

Again, these are just my two cents on the matter. Like many artists here, I really want to see DWP return. Rob said it best, we all want to get published and see our work get recognition. I personally want something like DWP to succeed even if I don't get to be apart of it. Let's keep these ideas coming and hopefully we can come to some type of compromise that gets DWP back on print.

Here are my thoughts; going all digital is something anyone can do on their own by utilizing a website or forum. Also, even though ComiXology does eliminate printing costs, there's still quarterly accounting that someone has to do and I would pity the person that has to figure out how much each contributor gets and ultimately be the one filing taxes on said sales. There's just too many things going against it.

pandayboss
01-19-2019, 02:40 PM
Here are my thoughts; going all digital is something anyone can do on their own by utilizing a website or forum. Also, even though ComiXology does eliminate printing costs, there's still quarterly accounting that someone has to do and I would pity the person that has to figure out how much each contributor gets and ultimately be the one filing taxes on said sales. There's just too many things going against it.

I understand where you're coming from Eduke. Yup, it's very involved and time & money consuming and unsure of any revenue coming back.

Just a thought:

How about hosting an online comics here in DW to read for FREE with an option to buy the printed version through IndyPlanet or something. This way, you don't need to worry about the product and the sales if there is. It will also build up your site with up and coming creators and their comics. Same as the thread, someone would look at the content and would give the go ahead for upload. The upload will be for just to sample the comics, maybe 6-10 pages max. :D

JoieSimmons
01-22-2019, 10:55 AM
Here are my thoughts; going all digital is something anyone can do on their own by utilizing a website or forum. Also, even though ComiXology does eliminate printing costs, there's still quarterly accounting that someone has to do and I would pity the person that has to figure out how much each contributor gets and ultimately be the one filing taxes on said sales. There's just too many things going against it.

Not much to do but evolve somehow.
Keep the existing threads but make a showcase thread that you and some admins curate. Stuff that gets some buzz. Find a way to have a thread that can post to Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and draws it back here and the job boards. Like a DW Showcase thread that blasts to the entire internet.

Not so much a popularity contest by admins, but stuff that's genuinely gaining interest on the boards. Build up the interaction if that's even possible anymore.

eDuke
01-22-2019, 01:43 PM
@Dario -- I like the idea of hosting online comics that this community can participate in. Almost like what we just did with the Hellboy collaboration but we can do it like a comic strip or something so creators won't feel overwhelmed with producing 6-10 pagers.

@Joie -- Believe me, I've been thinking of a way to do this. I'd like to make it look a little more elaborate than how the current forum system showcases it tho. I think I know of a way to do it, but it'll require some Wordpress tweaking and that's my problem right now, I'm a Wordpress newbie.

JoieSimmons
01-23-2019, 02:33 PM
@Dario -- I like the idea of hosting online comics that this community can participate in. Almost like what we just did with the Hellboy collaboration but we can do it like a comic strip or something so creators won't feel overwhelmed with producing 6-10 pagers.

@Joie -- Believe me, I've been thinking of a way to do this. I'd like to make it look a little more elaborate than how the current forum system showcases it tho. I think I know of a way to do it, but it'll require some Wordpress tweaking and that's my problem right now, I'm a Wordpress newbie.

If you get that far (I know nothing about WordPress) look at IFTTT to automate everything across the entire internet.

Bishop
01-23-2019, 03:00 PM
@Joie -- Believe me, I've been thinking of a way to do this. I'd like to make it look a little more elaborate than how the current forum system showcases it tho. I think I know of a way to do it, but it'll require some Wordpress tweaking and that's my problem right now, I'm a Wordpress newbie.

Wordpress is a great tool, and has some nice comic plugins for displaying pages, etc. Be careful, though. Wordpress is notoriously prone to security issues. If you host a WP site you have to stay on top of patching, and making sure the WP patches don't break your plugins, etc. It can be a real pain...

Scribbly
01-23-2019, 07:12 PM
So,...then...what?

eDuke
01-24-2019, 04:33 PM
@Joie -- what's IFTTT?

@Bishop -- I have it set to do automatic updates and since I'm not really running anything, it should stay unbroken.

@Scribbly -- I'm thinking...

12013
01-24-2019, 05:39 PM
so is the question how to create/get the content of the project or how to present/offer the content when its all put together? or both?

Rob

eDuke
01-24-2019, 10:36 PM
so is the question how to create/get the content of the project or how to present/offer the content when its all put together? or both?


I think I'm just going to publish the strips manually. I know html decent enough so it'll just be easier for me to create web pages as I need them instead of learning Wordpress.

So what I'm going to do is talk this over with a buddy of mine and flesh out some sort of story which other creators can just continue if they want. It'll be themed and anthology style so different segments can be placed together wherever. This will avoid any delays if a team drops the ball.

More details as they unfold...

JoieSimmons
01-25-2019, 12:16 PM
[QUOTE=eDuke;1878689]@Joie -- what's IFTTT?

IFTTT.com is a site that lets you set up "recipes" where if you have a blog, every time you make a blog post, it makes a twitter post, a facebook post, an Instagram post, reddit, wherever you have an account. One post can go across all of your social accounts.

And do you have a comic-sized, high-resolution ad? Those of us who self publish would (should) be happy to put a DW ad in the back of their books.

JoieSimmons
01-25-2019, 12:18 PM
I think I'm just going to publish the strips manually. I know html decent enough so it'll just be easier for me to create web pages as I need them instead of learning Wordpress.

So what I'm going to do is talk this over with a buddy of mine and flesh out some sort of story which other creators can just continue if they want. It'll be themed and anthology style so different segments can be placed together wherever. This will avoid any delays if a team drops the ball.

More details as they unfold...

Make a Choose Your Own Adventure Comic. Write one comic and give people the chance to start there. Write their own part 2. Once the other parts are done, people can write their own continuations of the new parts, or keep going from what they've already done. One part one that branches off like a tree. Anyone can do whatever they want with it.

paul brian deberry
01-25-2019, 02:03 PM
^This is a damn fine idea.^

12013
01-25-2019, 06:48 PM
Make a Choose Your Own Adventure Comic. Write one comic and give people the chance to start there. Write their own part 2. Once the other parts are done, people can write their own continuations of the new parts, or keep going from what they've already done. One part one that branches off like a tree. Anyone can do whatever they want with it.

if I may chime in on THAT Idea, for anyone that remembers the group projects we did, the first xmen book was set up that way. and while it DID produce some neat ideas and concepts, by the end, the story had gone off in all kinds of crazy ways that made it more and more difficult to keep track of and make sense of.

that's why the hellboy format worked, there was a basic concept that everyone needed to adhere to but gave plenty of freedom to do almost whatever they wanted.

so...just saying that the idea, if im understanding correctly, of having a continuing story that people just add whatever they want and then the following guy adds whatever and the next guy adds whatever could potentially turn into a nonsensical mess. SOME structure was/in needed.

my 2 cents.

paul brian deberry
01-25-2019, 08:54 PM
Right. You're correct, but... you are missing something.

The idea is Choose Your Own Adventure.

The guy in front of me could have written something about Cable rescuing Storm, but what I really want to write, was something a guy four stories earlier wrote. When he introduced Deadpool. As the next guy in line, I can back to any point in the story and tell a branching story.

NatMatt
01-25-2019, 11:06 PM
Make a Choose Your Own Adventure Comic. Write one comic and give people the chance to start there. Write their own part 2. Once the other parts are done, people can write their own continuations of the new parts, or keep going from what they've already done. One part one that branches off like a tree. Anyone can do whatever they want with it.

I'd be down for that. I wasn't around when the Hellboy comic or other projects were made but I think it's great to do something in a similar vein with original stories. My only gripe with that idea was mentioned by Rob. The story may become to convoluted or nonsensical with all of those different creators jumping in. It's like the phrase "too many captains sink the ship". If possible, maybe the continuations should be pitched in advance to everyone who's apart of it before they're written/drawn so everyone's atleast on the same page as to the direction of the story. I don't know, if anyone has a better idea on how to structure this idea please voice your opinion because I think this is a pretty good idea to consider.

12013
01-26-2019, 12:12 AM
Right. You're correct, but... you are missing something.

The idea is Choose Your Own Adventure.

The guy in front of me could have written something about Cable rescuing Storm, but what I really want to write, was something a guy four stories earlier wrote. When he introduced Deadpool. As the next guy in line, I can back to any point in the story and tell a branching story.

right.. but I think my point still stands. choose your own adventure or not, it seems to me like it will go off in all kinds of directions that wont make any sense and a reader might pick it up and go WTF and then set it back down.
that's all im saying.

Scribbly
01-27-2019, 05:28 AM
I am up for self conclusive short stories, 3 to 8 pages long as much.
Something that can be manageable for the authors in a short term.
No trademark, copyrighted, nor famous "big four" characters, please.

All we need is a given genre and a given take on it. Then, start working on it.
Example:
Westerns and Magic.
or Medieval and Horror.
or Superheroes and Mythology.
or Detective and Supernatural.
or War and UFOs. etc. You name it.
With these stories together we can make an anthology that can be published on TBD format
under the DW banner of course.
That's all folks!!

JoieSimmons
01-28-2019, 11:06 AM
If you think of each chapter as more of a showcase of the writer, artist and letterer, colorist, the overall story doesn't matter. Just the fun of a starting point and going from there. Any "chapter" can be a starting point for any sort of story. The point of DW is to showcase what we can do and who we are. Make something good within those loose limits and you're good to go. Hell, take a chapter, kill the entire universe in panel 1 and go from there. Doesn't matter. It's your chapter, do whatever you want. Those pages are your showcase.

pandayboss
02-02-2019, 11:36 AM
I'm just going to wait and see what you guys come up with as I'm still not a big fan of continuity by branching out as what mentioned here. I'd like to see a story done in one sitting be it a series of episodes and then move on to the next and so forth. I also think the benefit to the team (creator) by selling the stories as e-comics in the future.

sevans
02-03-2019, 07:43 PM
I think (myself) that a bunch a short self contained stories are better than a random sprawling epic. Think of all the short stories in Magazines like Heavy Metal.

Maybe a common theme or setting for each bunch.
So writers can get on board with artists and inkers etc.

12013
02-03-2019, 07:47 PM
I think (myself) that a bunch a short self contained stories are better than a random sprawling epic. Think of all the short stories in Magazines like Heavy Metal.

Maybe a common theme or setting for each bunch.
So writers can get on board with artists and inkers etc.

this I agree with

sevans
02-03-2019, 07:53 PM
I agree with Rob.

Hahaha

12013
02-03-2019, 08:35 PM
I agree with Rob.

Hahaha

I agree with Sevans

sevans
02-03-2019, 10:59 PM
No one else does.

Bishop
02-03-2019, 11:50 PM
No one else does.

Yes they do

eDuke
02-04-2019, 01:05 PM
I'm glad you guys are piping in and it looks like you want self-containment, I mean self-contained stories. So let's do it. I'd be perfectly willing to create a sub-section off the main site to showcase online strips you can own and promote your own characters and ideas.

The only thing I'd like to do is serialize them, think like a newspaper as opposed to comic books. I know some of you will want to repurpose for the printed form, that's fine. Just do your pages like normal and just reformat to showcase on the side. I did this with Fist of Justice and turned them into daily comic strips with a little Photoshop tweaking. If you need to see examples, let me know.

sevans
02-04-2019, 05:04 PM
eDuke - If the characters created are suitable to serials, then sure thing. That sounds like a good idea. But short, stand alone stories will be great too.

Bishop - hahaha, cheers.

Scribbly
02-05-2019, 07:03 AM
A serial is something I can't afford to do. It takes continuity in time.
Therefore, it becomes a job. And time for long lasting unpaid projects I don't have.
Working for free, a self contained, short story, 3 to 6 pages long, can be made all at once.
A couple of days or few weekends and that's it. Is done.
We all can see and enjoy the results. IMHO.

12013
02-05-2019, 04:40 PM
A serial is something I can't afford to do. It takes continuity in time.
Therefore, it becomes a job. And time for long lasting unpaid projects I don't have.
Working for free, a self contained, short story, 3 to 6 pages long, can be made all at once.
A couple of days or few weekends and that's it. Is done.
We all can see and enjoy the results. IMHO.

this I also agree with.

pandayboss
02-06-2019, 10:44 AM
I agree with sevans, Scribbly and 12013. :D Let's create self-contained shorts and populate the sub-section Eduke mentioned! :bounce::carrot:

Facundo Ezequiel
02-06-2019, 03:00 PM
Self-contained shorts are the way to go, specially in this South American heat... :slap:

Scribbly
02-07-2019, 12:26 AM
Self-contained shorts are the way to go, specially in this South American heat... :slap:

Y si..lo que mata es la humedad Don Facundo.

Self-contained shorts are the way to go!

Pete Tha Creep
02-09-2019, 01:47 PM
Where do I have to look for activities like this?

sevans
02-10-2019, 03:56 PM
So, lets try and get this thing started.
What will the first theme or style be? Sci-fi, Horror, Bad Superheroes, Comedy
And when will the deadline be?

Then we get all the people who want to be involved, and how.

Sevans (ME) - Artwork and/or colourist

sevans
02-14-2019, 07:35 PM
As a non-american...this doesn't appeal to me.

Morganza
02-15-2019, 08:32 AM
You should do a comic about various people with spider like abilities from across the multiverse and call it, Digital Webbing Verse!

My character Clem Fandango has Spider powers and is the first gay Palestinian super hero, analytics and demographics will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt this concept will be a complete hit among the average comic book readers.

sevans
02-16-2019, 03:47 AM
Good Luck Morganza.

Scribbly: I like any comic that appeals to me. Mostly American stuff, but Tintin, Asterix, Valerian, 2000ad virtually anything.

eDuke
02-16-2019, 12:57 PM
Alright. Since it sounds like the majority rather have self-contained stories. I say, go for it. Work out the details between yourselves and if you want this site to dedicate space to showcase, reach out to me.

pandayboss
02-16-2019, 02:00 PM
Yaay! :bounce::banana: Thanks Eduke!

pandayboss
02-16-2019, 03:22 PM
By the way, I'll be looking for teams to work with me on some of the short stories I have. I'll post the announcement on my Panday Studio forum. Definitely this going to be fun! :D

sevans
02-16-2019, 04:54 PM
How short? If you think my style will suit one of them, let me know.

pandayboss
02-16-2019, 06:39 PM
Alright. Since it sounds like the majority rather have self-contained stories. I say, go for it. Work out the details between yourselves and if you want this site to dedicate space to showcase, reach out to me.

Oh yes, definitely! We need a space to showcase the work. :happy:

pandayboss
02-16-2019, 06:43 PM
How short? If you think my style will suit one of them, let me know.

Oh, sure. It's better to show first what I have and then I'll look for the team to work on each story. It's only 6-8 or 10 pages each. I haven't really figured out what I want at the moment. :har:

jeffchris50
02-19-2019, 11:07 PM
I'd love to do some work with you, Dario, my friend! Short, long or in-between, I'd love to get back on the horse again.

pandayboss
02-20-2019, 10:21 AM
I'd love to do some work with you, Dario, my friend! Short, long or in-between, I'd love to get back on the horse again.

Oh, for sure my friend! Just waiting for scripts and I'll announce them. Thanks Jeff! :D

Pete Tha Creep
02-24-2019, 05:30 PM
I am a bit confused about this thread, mainly because I dont know how these things where organized here before. It seemed to me like a forum activity where mods would make a thread to announce the activity and invite people to join. But it doesnt seem to go down that way now? Is this now officially outsourced to your subforum, @pandayboss? Are you choosing all the teams? Where do other people team up? Are there even other people? I would like to get my feet wet with a short 6 pager or so and team up with a writer or other makeup of creator team, just having some fun and push the skills a bit. Get critique and compare workflows and whatnot.
I saw the hellboy comic and downloaded that and it is a really cool project. Hats off to everyone involved. But it was not directly obvious how that came to be or where to look for this. I was expecting to find all kind of wip threads for that, but didnt find them so far.

Sorry for wall of text :)

pandayboss
02-24-2019, 06:08 PM
I am a bit confused about this thread, mainly because I dont know how these things where organized here before. It seemed to me like a forum activity where mods would make a thread to announce the activity and invite people to join. But it doesnt seem to go down that way now? Is this now officially outsourced to your subforum, @pandayboss? Are you choosing all the teams? Where do other people team up? Are there even other people? I would like to get my feet wet with a short 6 pager or so and team up with a writer or other makeup of creator team, just having some fun and push the skills a bit. Get critique and compare workflows and whatnot.
I saw the hellboy comic and downloaded that and it is a really cool project. Hats off to everyone involved. But it was not directly obvious how that came to be or where to look for this. I was expecting to find all kind of wip threads for that, but didnt find them so far.

Sorry for wall of text :)

Yes, there's a bit of confusion here Pete. :har: My apologies to you and DW folks. I'm not going to look after this activity at all. Eduke is the main guy here who's going to run the sub-forum for the self-contained short stories. I'm simply saying that I'll be looking for a team for a few of my entries. The people who replied to my post here are just telling me that they want to team up with me on my projects. The messages should have been sent to my messenger instead. Haha. :D

I hope it answers your question and there shouldn't be any further confusion with the DW folks here.

eDuke
02-25-2019, 12:22 PM
Basically it's like this. Creators link up and creator something which can be displayed on this website in a dedicated section of this website. The format will be half a traditional comic page (so when working the page, please keep in mind that the page will be split in half to showcased it fully on a computer screen). Once the strip/comic is completed, send me a PM so I can look at it and we'll decide from there what to do with it.

sevans
02-25-2019, 07:41 PM
what would those dimensions be?

eDuke
02-27-2019, 02:40 PM
what would those dimensions be?

Let's go with traditional print dimensions but cut it in half so we run the top half one day and the bottom on another.

Scribbly
02-28-2019, 06:15 AM
What I don't get is what is this activity about? What is the subject or theme to work with? What is the premise? Right now all this is in a blur. IMHO.

eDuke
02-28-2019, 12:40 PM
What I don't get is what is this activity about? What is the subject or theme to work with? What is the premise? Right now all this is in a blur. IMHO.

It's anything you want. If there's enough interest, we'll just create a whole new section on the site showcasing comics for you guys.

Pete Tha Creep
03-06-2019, 02:00 PM
So just to be clear, this is about showcasing finished comics by users? Not about creating them or bringing people tpgether to collaborate?

Scribbly
03-09-2019, 01:40 AM
I think I got it! This anthology should be about NOTHING!

What kind of stories? No stories. Nothing.
What about artwork? No artwork. Nothing.
An anthology about nothing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofOSlsNz5I8

pandayboss
03-09-2019, 12:38 PM
I think I got it! This anthology should be about NOTHING!

What kind of stories? No stories. Nothing.
What about artwork? No artwork. Nothing.
An anthology about nothing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofOSlsNz5I8

Haha. It's about whatever you want your story to be. Whatever you want to tell in different genres, is all up to you.

eDuke
03-09-2019, 02:06 PM
I think I got it! This anthology should be about NOTHING!

What kind of stories? No stories. Nothing.
What about artwork? No artwork. Nothing.
An anthology about nothing!


It's not an anthology. Seems no one could agree to a group project so I just tossed out the option of people putting together their own comics and if you needed a place to showcase them, I'd create an place to showcase them. It's not much, but that's all I got to offer.

12013
03-10-2019, 12:03 AM
It's not an anthology. Seems no one could agree to a group project so I just tossed out the option of people putting together their own comics and if you needed a place to showcase them, I'd create an place to showcase them. It's not much, but that's all I got to offer.

see this I like. id LOVE to see people own original comics and stuff. I have a bunch of stuff ready to go, or very close to ready to go. BUT, its all drawn and done on traditional 11x17 pages and not designed to be split in half like was said needed to be done, (if im understanding what was said correctly). is that gonna throw a wrench in what we do, if the drawn art isn't designed to be cut in half like that?

or am I way off in my understanding?

pandayboss
03-10-2019, 04:22 PM
see this I like. id LOVE to see people own original comics and stuff. I have a bunch of stuff ready to go, or very close to ready to go. BUT, its all drawn and done on traditional 11x17 pages and not designed to be split in half like was said needed to be done, (if im understanding what was said correctly). is that gonna throw a wrench in what we do, if the drawn art isn't designed to be cut in half like that?

or am I way off in my understanding?

That's also what I'm going to ask here. It might be tough to get the half layout on 11X17 as I use the same size for my comics. I also like to design my panels as appropriate with the sequences.

I think if there is a site here, showcasing a short preview, it may not matter how it's formatted. I'm looking at the comixology sample. Readers can zoom in and out on the page regardless. just my thoughts.:D

What do you think, Eduke?

sevans
03-10-2019, 05:25 PM
I second that idea good sir.

eDuke
03-12-2019, 01:19 PM
That's also what I'm going to ask here. It might be tough to get the half layout on 11X17 as I use the same size for my comics. I also like to design my panels as appropriate with the sequences.

I think if there is a site here, showcasing a short preview, it may not matter how it's formatted. I'm looking at the comixology sample. Readers can zoom in and out on the page regardless. just my thoughts.:D

What do you think, Eduke?

My honest opinion, if you guys want to do traditional comics, then you should really push them through ComiXology because you'll probably get more potential exposure there.

The only reason I chose with the half page size is because it fits on the screen better. But there's nothing stopping you guys from just posting the full pages here in the forums if you want.

pandayboss
03-21-2019, 11:16 AM
My honest opinion, if you guys want to do traditional comics, then you should really push them through ComiXology because you'll probably get more potential exposure there.

The only reason I chose with the half page size is because it fits on the screen better. But there's nothing stopping you guys from just posting the full pages here in the forums if you want.

I just thought that it would be a good idea to add a comics section in this forum so readers or subscribers can read comics for free. At the same time help showcase a lot frequent creators here, professional or novice alike, who'd like to show their works without going through the submission process like comixology or any other webcomics hubs. Plus it helps advertise DW if you'd get lots of visitors and exposures.

What about making it widescreen format instead so it's still good if one decides to go to print. This way it's full page format instead of half-page only? It was done before in GraphicSmash & WebComics Nation back in the days. It's horizontal 8.5X11 format. Would that fit?

http://www.pandaystudio.com/archive/Sorcerer of Fortune/SOF-14_small.jpg

eDuke
03-23-2019, 12:00 PM
See! I like that! That's what I was envisioning. But, you guys are ultimately in charge of how you want it presented. I'll create a sub-section on this site from the main page for "Online Comics by DW Forum Creators" and we can push 'em.