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j giar
05-12-2006, 12:22 PM
After reading T.J. Mays post about the numbers for CLL I've decided to go around the retailers and order books put out by those on here direct. I'm stepping out for a bit but if anyone out there that is set up for me to purchase your book directly thru you then post it here. I'll be checking back later. My reason for this? I'll be in this same position soon and I'm hoping to get as much support as possible. If someone knows of a thread that would already have this info , if you can link me to it I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Jim Giar

T.J. May
05-12-2006, 12:38 PM
You bring up a good point and it has been pointed out in the past. If everyone on here bought even a book or two a month that they learned about from this forum, the indy scene would have far better sales.

I mean there are 4000+ registered users here, and Ed has to debate whether or not publishing DWP is worth it anymore? We all sit here and bitch about Diamond this, and retailers that, but quite frankly the majority of consumers in comics are the creators. It's a small group of readers and we probably make up the bulk of them.

If we go into these stores, or hit these websites and demand they order each others books then the indy scene will get better. Retailers, and such start seeing a revenue stream they'll take it.

I even started a thread in our SUMM FORUM, and a thread in here asking people to send me info on what DWP books will be in current Previews. The idea is to collect that infomartion in one spot so that fans and US could print out the list, take it to our store and place orders. I listed the ones I knew of, but no one else has sent me info about their stuff.

Anywho, it is up to us. We guide the market with our dollars.

L Jamal
05-12-2006, 12:46 PM
you can buy Warmageddon and some DWP back issues at www.bullcitycomics.com
I've sold through most DWP issues but I still have some in stock. I just sold out of DWP #5 (featuring the GOON) this morning.
Any retailer can contact me via PM about bulk purchases.

DannoE
05-12-2006, 12:49 PM
After reading T.J. Mays post about the numbers for CLL I've decided to go around the retailers and order books put out by those on here direct. I'm stepping out for a bit but if anyone out there that is set up for me to purchase your book directly thru you then post it here. I'll be checking back later. My reason for this? I'll be in this same position soon and I'm hoping to get as much support as possible. If someone knows of a thread that would already have this info , if you can link me to it I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Jim Giar
Here you go:

- Bronx Angel: Politics By Another Method, 72 page = $6
- Elvenkind/Praxis, 54 pages, $5.75 (full color)

http://www.proletariatcomics.com/webcomics.html

We have other good stuff too, and you'll be helping me pay off the MOUNTAIN of debt I just accumulated from the massive flood that almost destroyed my house and definitely wrecked my business.

Shipping is free if you order both books! Reviews for BA are still available at http://www.proletariatcomics.com/bronx_angel.html.

Thanks for asking.

T.J. May
05-12-2006, 12:54 PM
So, you weren't joking about the flood? That bites man.

What flooded in Fairfield?

T

DannoE
05-12-2006, 01:11 PM
My house is the last one on the right:

http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn2.php?ColumnID=101

That's the fire chief carrying my youngest.

The Rooster River overflowed and caused the sewers to back up. It was a ****ing nightmare. My family had to be evacuated by boat. Lawsuits to follow.

A rough couple of weeks, believe me.

loki5
05-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Always happy to get some eyes pointed towards my work. All the books I've self-published (whether solo or part of an anthology) can be found at my Ferret Press (http://www.ferretpress.com/) site. The Books section has free previews of all the comics (plus the music CD.)

Thanks for taking the initiative. That's awesome. And I believe in good karma.

http://www.ferretpress.com/books/images/panel6_cover.jpg http://www.ferretpress.com/books/images/panel5_cover.jpg http://www.ferretpress.com/books/images/bcb_cover_front_tn.jpg http://www.ferretpress.com/images/hybrid_tn.jpg

T.J. May
05-12-2006, 01:35 PM
My house is the last one on the right:

http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn2.php?ColumnID=101

That's the fire chief carrying my youngest.

The Rooster River overflowed and caused the sewers to back up. It was a ****ing nightmare. My family had to be evacuated by boat. Lawsuits to follow.

A rough couple of weeks, believe me.


My God dude. That sucks. Your daughter is ok though?

I just ordered a few copies for Jay and myself. Good luck with everything. Still see you in Philly?

My best
--T

j giar
05-12-2006, 02:25 PM
Dan- I downloaded Battle Angel#0 to start. I'm reading it tonite. You'll be hearing from me soon from the looks of the issue. Hope your daughter is feeling better. Me and my family send you our best and will be thinking good thoughts for you and yours.
Jamal- Created my account at bullet city. Thanks!
T.J- I believe I can order direct through SUMM, yes? I might even pick up one of those spiffy shirts the two professional models are sportin. :happy:
Loki- I recieved an e-mail from Bob. Thanks for your help with that.
Thanks to everyone.
Jim Giar

ehobbs
05-12-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm in the process of building a brand new site where I help self publishers learn from all the mistakes I made with AWAKENINGS.

Anyway, it is still under HEAVY CONSTRUCTION but there is a store where readers can buy AWAKENINGS to support the site...

http://www.comicbookhustle.com

T.J. May
05-12-2006, 03:26 PM
Dan- I downloaded Battle Angel#0 to start. I'm reading it tonite. You'll be hearing from me soon from the looks of the issue. Hope your daughter is feeling better. Me and my family send you our best and will be thinking good thoughts for you and yours.
Jamal- Created my account at bullet city. Thanks!
T.J- I believe I can order direct through SUMM, yes? I might even pick up one of those spiffy shirts the two professional models are sportin. :happy:
Loki- I recieved an e-mail from Bob. Thanks for your help with that.
Thanks to everyone.
Jim Giar

Yes, it'll be on the site. Not sure if Jason added a button yet. We didn't want to compete with the retailers until the book was shipping. So, a button will go up in this weekend.

Thanks
T

matts128
05-12-2006, 06:41 PM
You can buy copies of The Venger: Dead Man Rising #1 directly from me off of my blog site. Check it out. I try to keep updating it regularly and will be posting artwork from #2 on it this weekend.

By the way, great idea for a thread!

covenx
05-12-2006, 07:19 PM
You can get any of Darkslinger Comics titles at: www.darkslinger.com/ORDERING or on www.indyplanet.com We will also be selling through Independent Propoganda when they go live. Anyone else selling on Indyplanet or in the Comixpress store? I like ordering Indys that way to save on shipping.

Gatch
05-12-2006, 07:26 PM
You can get a copy of our premier title Bushi:Warrior Caste at Indyplanet.com (www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=69) We'd definetly appreciate the support and will most definetly return the favor. Just let me know when your books available! One

D.J. Coffman
05-13-2006, 12:07 AM
I put out an independent monthly full color comic -- probably the first and only of it's kind.

http://yirmumah.net/buy.html

Smeghead
05-13-2006, 12:49 AM
Danno, that's horrible! Is your daughter feeling any better? My best wishes are with you and your family.

Copies of my book, A'pertua, can be ordered through comixpress (#1: http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_28&products_id=338
#2: http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=435 ) or directily through my website, http://www.debihammack.com/apertua/.

DannoE
05-13-2006, 06:35 AM
Thanks guys.

Yeah, we're okay. It was a traumatic experience, but we're fine. TJ, if you don't mind, I'll hand-deliver and sign these for you at Philly. Thank you so much for ordering them. As I've said before, I can't wait to get my hands on CLL.

Paul Sanderson
05-13-2006, 07:48 AM
Hope you're family's ok, DannoE...that's rough man.

My stuff, be it comics, books (novels & non-fiction), movies, merchandise etc. can be bought by clicking here (http://www.the-wraith.com/store.html). If you like old fashioned storytelling and retro/pulp sensibilities, you'll love The Wraith.

T.J. May
05-13-2006, 07:52 AM
Thanks guys.

Yeah, we're okay. It was a traumatic experience, but we're fine. TJ, if you don't mind, I'll hand-deliver and sign these for you at Philly. Thank you so much for ordering them. As I've said before, I can't wait to get my hands on CLL.

Glad everyone is ok. Philly would be fine. See you there!

--T

jimmycakes
05-13-2006, 09:24 AM
Dannoe, that bites! Glad everyone's safe.

I'll put a button for CLL on the site soon now that the diamond order is in. I went to my local shop to see if I could order Zombie Highway and DWP. ZH is on back order and he said if its not in in two weeks to order through the publisher, which I'll do, unless T.J. already ordered on for me.

There's some cool looking books here that I didn't even know about. Maybe we should start a thread in our forum that just has a list of books too of creators who've been on here at least for a little while.

eDuke
05-13-2006, 10:03 AM
I went to my local shop to see if I could order Zombie Highway and DWP. ZH is on back order and he said if its not in in two weeks to order through the publisher, which I'll do, unless T.J. already ordered on for me.
Zombie Highway was in last month's Previews. Should hit shops in 2-3 weeks.

barry gregory
05-13-2006, 10:24 AM
Just an FYI ... Any independent comic creator can add their comic to the store at IndyPlanet. It's not just an order fulfillment site for Ka-Blam. Our goal is to build a true print-on-demand comics shop stocked with the best indy comics around.

It's completely FREE to add your comic and you get 100% of the sale (minus printing cost, of course). You can get all the details here (http://indyplanet.com/modules.php?name=Ka-blam2).

j giar
05-13-2006, 12:09 PM
Dannoe, that bites! Glad everyone's safe.

I'll put a button for CLL on the site soon now that the diamond order is in. I went to my local shop to see if I could order Zombie Highway and DWP. ZH is on back order and he said if its not in in two weeks to order through the publisher, which I'll do, unless T.J. already ordered on for me.

There's some cool looking books here that I didn't even know about. Maybe we should start a thread in our forum that just has a list of books too of creators who've been on here at least for a little while.
Yeah, I tried last night. But I'll try again. Let me know when it's up guys.
Dan- Read Battle Angel#0 last night. Folks, you can download it for free to see if you like the title. I'll be ordering#1 today. Glad your family is safe. I told my family about you last night as we all sat around at dinner. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help you and your family Don.
Best Wishes. Jim Giar

jimmycakes
05-13-2006, 12:59 PM
Zombie Highway was in last month's Previews. Should hit shops in 2-3 weeks.


See, now that's what I thought. I'll call him today. Thanks EDUKE! :bounce:

eDuke
05-13-2006, 02:04 PM
See, now that's what I thought. I'll call him today. Thanks EDUKE!
Here's a list:
Current Previews Catalogue, July releases:

Digital Webbing Presents #30 written by forum member Imboden, illustrated by forum member hardinart, colored by forum member Ryan Scott, cover by forum member Marvel

Next Previews Catalogue, August releases:

Zombie Highway #2 written by forum member Dexxell
BloodRayne: Plague of Dreams #1 written by forum member Troy Wall and illustrated by forum member Mark A. Robinson

Next Month's Previews Catalogue, September releases:

Digital Webbing Presents #31 illustrated by forum member Cinar, colorist yet to be determined but probably a forum member if I can find one
E-Man #1 colored by forum member Webspun

j giar
05-13-2006, 04:20 PM
I just ordered copies of Warmegeddon Quarterly#1 and Digital Webbing#4 from Bullcity(thanks Jamal). I'm looking forward to reading them. I'm making it a personal quest to buy a copy of everyones titles from here..at least two a week. If I like them, then I can recommend them to someone else and so on.
I have now broken my Digital Webbing cherry! :banana: :bounce: :carrot:
Now soon as the May Brothers get CLL on their store....my next quest. Onward!

Paul Sanderson
05-13-2006, 06:38 PM
I've got DWP #30 on order, with more coming soon.

Flairbrusher
05-13-2006, 08:10 PM
Okay, once again, I'm getting my feet wet in these forums. I realize that self promotion is the key to winning this endless battle to make a living as a comic book creator, and that part of it is constantly being on the lookout for new recruits to our audience. I am also a parent, and I realize that as a community , we can help support each other's interests and the industry as a whole by purchasing from one another. I'm downloading Bronx Angel as I'm writing this and am going to put in an order to catch up with the story.
What goes around comes around, or, "Do unto others as you would have them do to you".
Don't forget those business cards and handout copies of your books.
Peace Out.
-Tony

http://www.anthonyhochrein.com

http://www.cafepress.com/ahochrein

info@anthonyhochrein.com

T.J. May
05-13-2006, 08:37 PM
Yeah, and I'm all for trading copies for convention appearances. If you've got a book I'll trade you face value for face value. For instance if you've got a $3.00 book I'll trade 25 copies of CLL for 50 copies of yours. $6.00 book? 25 for 25. I'll put them out at the cons we attend with the idea that you would do the same.

If you have no cons in your area, we'll still pimp your book at cons in exchange for you wholesaling our books to retailers in your neck of the woods.

I like the even $$ exchanges so the we have equal product to sell and not have to owe each other anything. What you sell you keep, what we sell we keep.

PM me if anyone is interested, Dexxell I think I emailed you about this at your MySpace account.

Joe Martino
05-13-2006, 10:31 PM
If you are interested you can pre-order the Shadowflame 10th Anniversary Special at the link below.

http://www.bloodstainedproductions.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=4

Or you can order it now if you are impatient but it will be double the cost at Lulu. I would rather you wait but I give people the option.

http://www.lulu.com/content/280014

You can also still order Ripperman from me if you'd like.

http://www.jgmcomics.com/rippercomic/RMComic1.htm

Thanks for looking!!!

Thanks for looking!!!

Jay Carvajal
05-13-2006, 10:47 PM
Hi everyone,

You can pick up Zero Hunters (http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=51) #1 & 2 over at www.indyplanet.com and #3 & 4 should be out soon. Each issue is 32 pages of story and in full color.
Thanks,
-Jay

DungeonMasterJm
05-14-2006, 10:04 AM
Hi all,

My book can be found/previewed and bought here:

http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=67

It's by me, Jennifer Rodgers, and Jason Embury among others.

DM Jim

albone
05-14-2006, 06:25 PM
After reading T.J. Mays post about the numbers for CLL I've decided to go around the retailers and order books put out by those on here direct. I'm stepping out for a bit but if anyone out there that is set up for me to purchase your book directly thru you then post it here. I'll be checking back later. My reason for this? I'll be in this same position soon and I'm hoping to get as much support as possible. If someone knows of a thread that would already have this info , if you can link me to it I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Jim Giar

Jim, that ultimate put your money where your mouth is. That's hardcore dude, and you and T.J. put it well, that if a steady percentage of our forum's members bought some books, the indy market would be a lot stronger. I'm going to try and follow the example you've set. :thumbs:

Paul Sanderson
05-14-2006, 07:24 PM
Well, there's some cool stuff listed to buy in this very thread...why not start here and work your way through it.

Ingrid K. V. Hardy
05-15-2006, 09:45 AM
Best idea I've ever read... already chosen a few I'm gonna get right now. May possibly be posting a link meself (in collaboration) in January!

Axcreations
05-16-2006, 08:11 PM
Check it out at:

www.blackout-drunk.com (http://www.blackout-drunk.com)

The creators were all brought together by DigitalWebbing. It is pretty funny if I do say so myself. Check it out! Thanks!

Chris Dearman

Sequential76
05-17-2006, 09:03 AM
Here's the one for http://orlandohardingspariah.com/mainpage.html - It's a shame there's so much for shipping and handleing that it takes 8-11 dollars to have someone order the book direct from the site.

Here's a forum I saw on Avalanch there's a noble purpose to it. Indy people talking abaout indy matters. Distribution and Marketing within budget.
http://iu.host.dj/

I like the idea to buy within the community especially when nothing but Marvel and DC make up the bulk of the top 300 list. hmm... I guess that's 300 artists and creators with jobs though.

I like the Idea of a master list of indy's at one place.

T.J. May
05-17-2006, 09:26 AM
I like the idea to buy within the community especially when nothing but Marvel and DC make up the bulk of the top 300 list. hmm... I guess that's 300 artists and creators with jobs though.

I like the Idea of a master list of indy's at one place.

I don't think we are suggesting to boycott the bigger companies. They make quality books we all enjoy. Most of these threads have come about due to folks around here forever bitching about the state of the industry, and why don't indies sell better? Well....because no one is buying them.

We've used DW as an example. There are over 4000 users on this site, and I don't have exact numbers, but DWP dosen't sell 2000 copies through the direct market.

And yeah, a monthly list would be a big start. Still, people are going to need to go out and buy some of the books. We all hlp each other out with crtiques and the like. Time we all started opening up our wallets. :)

eDuke
05-17-2006, 10:46 AM
We've used DW as an example. There are over 4000 users on this site, and I don't have exact numbers, but DWP dosen't sell 2000 copies through the direct market.
You can't go by the member list, 90% of the users on here just want to work in the comics industry and don't even purchase comic books, nevermind visit a local comic shop. I tried the direct sale route by offering subscriptions and we cap at around 30 members. And half of those are past DWP contributors or future hopefuls.

You just gotta face it, indy comics are doomed. :p

j giar
05-17-2006, 11:33 AM
Yep! I'm guilty of it as well. I've been a member for a year and just bought the premium membership. I come on here and critique and chime in with my two cents and all that bullshit. But it was TJ's post that kind of woke me up. I mean, I'm planning on self publishing my book and will be in the same position as The May Brother's and even Ed.(maybe not to the same degree.)
We come on here and bitch and moan about the indy market and do nothing to support it. We're busy chasing the dream, like I said I'm guilty of it. Don't get me wrong I ain't buying just any book. I'll buy what interests me. But we do need to start putting our money where our mouth is. I'm making it a personal goal to buy at least 1 or 2 books a week from those on this board. Including Ed and Digital Webbing. I just bought DW#4 and I'm waiting for it to arrive. (Yeah, I know it's a back issue but I like to see where it started and where it's at now.) I've come farther in one year than I did in 5. And it's because of this place and Ed. I think I owe him that much at least. So people, quit your bitchin and start buyin. Jim Giar
P.S. TJ or Jason, can I buy Catching Lucifers Lunch at your SUMM store yet?

T.J. May
05-17-2006, 12:48 PM
You can't go by the member list, 90% of the users on here just want to work in the comics industry and don't even purchase comic books, nevermind visit a local comic shop. I tried the direct sale route by offering subscriptions and we cap at around 30 members. And half of those are past DWP contributors or future hopefuls.

You just gotta face it, indy comics are doomed. :p

Still, people trying to get into film, buy DVDs. People trying to get into book publishing, buy novels. Just cause you are simply trying to break in doesn't mean you aren't also a consumer. And for the most part the creators are the consumers in comics, mainstream or otherwise. Besides, if you are a comic wannabee-creator, you need to know your turf and do some market research.

If you spend a few bucks in the indy pool, it'll help it grow. If it grows, there will be more demand, more demand means more gigs.

As for buying CLL, yes we've added a paypal button. BUT...it's not sending you to the shopping cart at the moment. The rest of the books and tees are available, and their buttons appear to be working. I'll drop you a PM when Jay updates it. But today is his daughters birthday, and his second one is due any minute. SO, it may not get done today :)

T

DannoE
05-17-2006, 12:58 PM
We were having this same discussion on PBR yesterday (http://pbr.powerblogs.com/posts/1147665450.shtml). Why do folks buy Big 2 comics they don't like? I think it's the same reason they eat at McDonald's. They know what to expect.

I think part of the problem is name recognition. I make a point to impulse buy at least half of what I buy each month. That will often include Vertigo stuff, but it rarely includes anything "superhero." But even then, I'm a lot more likely to buy something I've seen somewhere and with which I am at least somewhat familiar, AND even though i do my impulse buying at a big store in Manhattan, I'm quite sure that they miss a lot of what's good.

IMO, the market is retailers. Once your book is in stores, you can do all kinds of crazy, neato stuff to raise awareness. But the question is: How to reach them?

I'd be curious to know how retailers choose their indies.

Anyway, I agree with TJ that the Big 2 do make a lot of good comics, but they also make some stuff that it seems few folks actively like but which many folks continue to buy through inertia. I'd like to believe that you can get over that hurdle, but the secret is to get into the minds of retailers and then get into the minds of reader, in that order.

j giar
05-17-2006, 01:07 PM
Still, people trying to get into film, buy DVDs. People trying to get into book publishing, buy novels. Just cause you are simply trying to break in doesn't mean you aren't also a consumer. And for the most part the creators are the consumers in comics, mainstream or otherwise. Besides, if you are a comic wannabee-creator, you need to know your turf and do some market research.

If you spend a few bucks in the indy pool, it'll help it grow. If it grows, there will be more demand, more demand means more gigs.

As for buying CLL, yes we've added a paypal button. BUT...it's not sending you to the shopping cart at the moment. The rest of the books and tees are available, and their buttons appear to be working. I'll drop you a PM when Jay updates it. But today is his daughters birthday, and his second one is due any minute. SO, it may not get done today :)

T
No worries! Give Jason and his family my best. I have two daughters and they are the world to me. I'll be thinking good thoughts for his family. In the mean time I think I'll check out David Price until things are up and going. Thanks T.J.

Sequential76
05-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Buying Direct

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After reading T.J. Mays post about the numbers for CLL I've decided to go around the retailers and order books put out by those on here direct. I'm stepping out for a bit but if anyone out there that is set up for me to purchase your book directly thru you then post it here. I'll be checking back later. My reason for this? I'll be in this same position soon and I'm hoping to get as much support as possible. If someone knows of a thread that would already have this info , if you can link me to it I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Jim Giar
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Originally Posted by T.J. May
We've used DW as an example. There are over 4000 users on this site, and I don't have exact numbers, but DWP doesn’t sell 2000 copies through the direct market.


You can't go by the member list, 90% of the users on here just want to work in the comics industry and don't even purchase comic books, never mind visit a local comic shop. I tried the direct sale route by offering subscriptions and we cap at around 30 members. And half of those are past DWP contributors or future hopefuls.

You just gotta face it, indy comics are doomed.
~By Ed Dukshire

______________________________________ ___________________

That last post was by the Master of the house! I think Buying Direct thread Idea has a lot of possibilities and owns potential to springboard into something special. It’s Wednesday and I just went to the comic shop - a little inspired by this thread.

I'm an artist, I'm very picky, and I've got a tight budget. I'm attracted to Digital Webbing because I think it'll inspire and help me get into comics. Which it HAS and it DOES tremendously and consistently. This place is one of the Mecca's of comic creator communities.

I'm in the shop for about 10 minutes and I've only picked up one book. The 1 Indy book I thought I'd buy inspired by this thread and to kind of prove myself. I want to learn from the best so I usually buy big company books the who usually set the standards. 10 minutes in with my one book and this girl comes in and just picks up about 15-20 books in 2 minutes, mostly Marvel and DC. She doesn't even look at them. 3 others come in and do the same thing.

This is not an attempt to Bann anybody but lets use our heads. I've seen what's in most of those books and it's nothing all that great. A bunch of those Marvel and DC books on the top 300 in sales should be replaced with Indy books. Books with great Ideas and a lust for comics medium. I know most books are Rehashed ideas with a spin - because “everything has been done“. So lets buy rehashed Indy ideas with a spin. Maybe they’ll be more interesting stories if they financially survive the first 5 issues! All new things need a little time and the means to evolve into something great! If it doesn’t evolve write the Indy co. and tell them - without you the fans the title is nothing really.

I put down the Elk's trade paperback I had and started over. With an open mind I picked up whatever indies & comics looked good to me. I chose 10 books without batting an eye. Here’s my pull list for today. I’m giving this a chance lets see who I pick up next week.

Blade Of the Immortal 113
Rex Mundi 18
Strange Girl 4
Moon Knight 2
Local 4
Elk’s Run 4
Dare Devil 84
The Book of Souls 1
Season Of the Witch 1
Rock 5

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Sequential76/Forum%20Fun/MSCReciept.jpg

Really look at what you’re picking up at the shop. I do believe Digital webbing has more creators looking to get into comics then fanfare. Fans buy more Indy books. Aspiring comic creators SUPPORT YOUR PEERS, buy more independents. Get those Marvel and DC books but be a little more picky. A lot of those books on the top 300 list just didn’t earn it.

Post Your Indy Pull list
Would be a great sticky thread for each week!!!!!

Best Wishes,
~David

Sequential76
05-17-2006, 02:11 PM
I don't think we are suggesting to boycott the bigger companies. They make quality books we all enjoy. Most of these threads have come about due to folks around here forever bitching about the state of the industry, and why don't indies sell better? Well....because no one is buying them.

We've used DW as an example. There are over 4000 users on this site, and I don't have exact numbers, but DWP dosen't sell 2000 copies through the direct market.

And yeah, a monthly list would be a big start. Still, people are going to need to go out and buy some of the books. We all hlp each other out with crtiques and the like. Time we all started opening up our wallets. :)


YES

Sequential76
05-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Would a Forum or website that lists all the indies be a good idea?. all new releases on the indy market. Categories under what type of indy comic. Made specifically for Retailers. Most retailers don't like to be contacted by new companies and books through the EMAIL. They consider it spam. But if we got together under one roof just to kind of advertise then Retailers would have to look. Just think a big page of the web for your comic and all the retailers would see it.

mmmm....
But who's going to do the legwork. I'd definately send email to retailers from the master list without batting an eye. But we'd need an efficiant website. I think contributors would be easy to get. We could pay small dues to participate. Kind of like a co-op or something. This is doable folks...
And much cheaper and better then the little add space in Diamond Previews. We'd be helping out Diamond in the proccess t0o.

MrGranger
05-17-2006, 05:55 PM
DannoE - Sorry about the flood. Looks horrible over there. Been a crazy couple of years for weather.

I think that Independent Propaganda started out as a website showcasing the direct sales of all the indies, but they changed that to another online consignment shop. Oh well...

I still think it's a great idea if someone did a website or even an indy catalogue. If you got every publisher to pay a little or so for every book they wanted listed you could pay for printing a bunch of small indy catalogs to hand out at cons. The way Diamond works now, there is a huge gap for the indy books.

The website is cheaper, especially for someone who has the skills.

Oh...and you can get all the King Tractor Press books directly from www.kingtractorfilms.com. We do preorders as well.

Paul Sanderson
05-19-2006, 10:53 PM
This thread has all the indy titles you could possibly want and read...start right here and move forward from there.

j giar
05-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Just bought copies of Catching Lucifers Lunch from Summ and Panel:Myth from Ferret Press. I meant what I said about supporting the folks on here. Went to art school in Columbus which is where Ferret is out of. To this day I miss the aura of the art community there..especially German Village. I've been waiting to buy my copy of CLL from The May brothers direct. Gotta help do my part to help Jason feed the new kid on the way. :) My quest continues...Next two goals our The Wraith. Frank I was a big fan of Dark Horses X and The Prowler by First comics..Looks like, from the sample pages this is in the same vein. And Shawn Grangers Family Bones at King Tractor. I've been waiting for this one. Help keep the Indy Market Alive!!! Buy them damn books! :har:

Paul Sanderson
05-20-2006, 09:12 PM
Good on ya, mate. I'll try and do the same, go through this thread and buy where I can. I think that's the way to really support each other.

Sequential76
05-20-2006, 09:48 PM
:) Already got wraith preview book!

Paul Sanderson
05-21-2006, 07:07 AM
Cool beans :happy: Thanks man.

j giar
05-23-2006, 11:32 AM
Not trying to beat a dead horse here or pat myself on the back. But within a 12 day period I bought 5 books from folks here on the board. Now I didn't buy them to just buy them. I bought what I thought sounded interesting or that I was able to take sneak peeks at. When I get them I'll read and decide from there if I will purchase more or move on to something else. My point is that at least I'm checking these out instead of buying the next confusing cross over or X travaganza. Support those on here that are trying something different or pushing the envelope. They, as in the big 2, create shit because we buy shit...... Look at it this way. If each of us on here, going by the numbers T.J put up of 4000+ registered users, bought 3 to 5 books from anyone on this site. Including Ed and Digital Webbing. You can do the math. So anyone who hasn't put their books up should do so. This could only work in our favor.

JasonM
05-23-2006, 01:08 PM
If someone's looking for a twisted little tale, they should check out Ellium: Little Deaths over at Indyplanet.com (http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=77&osCsid=e78644aa1a0bdfd27b84e6b0ab604423) -You wont be sorry!

L Jamal
05-23-2006, 02:01 PM
Anyone ordering from www.bullcitycomics.com in the next few weeks will receive a free signed copy of Warmageddon Illustrated #1 with each order.

We are trying to reduce inventory on that issue.

j giar
05-23-2006, 03:07 PM
Anyone ordering from www.bullcitycomics.com in the next few weeks will receive a free signed copy of Warmageddon Illustrated #1 with each order.

We are trying to reduce inventory on that issue.
Damn! Just got my e-mail today confirming my order shipped. DAAMMMNN!

L Jamal
05-23-2006, 03:28 PM
It's in there.
We've been slipping them in orders for a while we need to reduce storage space to make room for upcoming project.

j giar
05-23-2006, 03:35 PM
It's in there.
We've been slipping them in orders for a while we need to reduce storage space to make room for upcoming project.
:banana: You've made my day Jamal!!!!Thanks.

Paul Sanderson
05-23-2006, 06:36 PM
Very cool...this is the thread that matters.

MrGranger
05-23-2006, 06:54 PM
Would a Forum or website that lists all the indies be a good idea?. all new releases on the indy market. .

I think it would be a GREAT idea. Independent Propaganda was going to be just that kind of website but for some reason changed it to a consignment comic store instead. That was a bit disappointing.

MrGranger
05-23-2006, 07:13 PM
Not trying to beat a dead horse here or pat myself on the back. But within a 12 day period I bought 5 books from folks here on the board. .

I actually have picked up most of the books by guys here...I don't mention it except when I point out how good they are. Crap...I even bought Invincible. But seriously, most of my favorites from the past year were indy books I got after reading one of the threads here (or on one of the other indy sites). There are some EXCELLENT titles. Right now I'm waiting on an order that includes Redchapel #1, Assassins Guild #1, GoMoCo #1 and Lucifer Fawkes - The Blind Ones. They all look great. I really like the Rorschach Entertainment books, all have been top quality.

Shawn

j giar
05-23-2006, 07:25 PM
I think it would be a GREAT idea. Independent Propaganda was going to be just that kind of website but for some reason changed it to a consignment comic store instead. That was a bit disappointing.
I know this thread has worked for me. By the first of the year I hope to have mine on here. I've found books on here that I wouldn't have found at my retailer. "To many and to risky." He said. As a creator I understand that. But as a reader. I've read Marvel and DC all my life and now I want something different. Something with a little more tooth. I do like what they have started at indyplanet. Browsed through there momentarily. I like the concept.
Shawn- I ordered my copy of Family Bones from Ian at Dimestore yesterday. I'm excited about that one. Love horror movies. Just saw Wolfcreek over the weekend. In fact last night I read the script to issue one of 30 days of night. Now I have to pick that one up.

Paul Sanderson
05-23-2006, 07:52 PM
You guys are the best...wish more were like you. In the coming weeks, I intend doing the same, going through this thread from start to finish and picking up what I can :)

L Jamal
06-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Warmageddon Quarterly #2 is now available. I just got the copies in today.
Art by Noel Tuazon (Elk's Run), Ruben Santos, Jr and Hannu Lipponen
www.bullcitycomics.com