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Fahnon
06-05-2006, 06:12 PM
So I'm officially an old bastard after turning 28 a few days ago.

I haven't been to a convention in years, but I was at the Philly Wizard World convention with a friend (SCHERZO on these boards). I was looking around at the other artists. I was surprised didnt see one "young person" there showing off art or walking around with the tell-tale portfolio case.

I mean when I was 15-16 I had a pipedream of having my art seen by someone at a company who would then hire me at an outrageously high page rate and let me make more than, and then support my mother who was unfairly still able to tell me what to do, therefore giving me ultimate power in my house... The first step towards world domination.

Are there any teenagers out there that want to draw comics/graphic novels? Do they just see the convention scene as a waste of time? Are we the last generation of comic artists?

And goddammit what happened to all the bootlegging?? Why can't I buy a perfect digital copy of the never released in the US special edition of "Gobots VS. Transformers VS. G.I. Joe VS. Thundercats VS. Silverhawks VS. Bionic Six VS. Bravestar VS. She-RA VS. Gem"? Why can't I buy the entire Rouroni Kenshin series on DVD for $18?? Where's the anime porn?? Was there some crackdown I missed??

But all in all it was a very good show. Even though I didn't see much there I couldn't buy in a comic shop, there were some damn good artists in artists alley and rappin with them was fun. The lines were way too long for portfolio reviews with the large publishers (Marvel was impossible with only one poor bastard reviewinga looong line of hopefulls). I'm pretty sure an editor can't possibly be paying as much attention to the last guys art as the first guy. I guess I'll just have to mail my stuff in...

Fahnon

theflash
06-05-2006, 09:06 PM
the bootleggers are starting to get in trouble...thus the noted lack of that sort of activity lately.

GW.Fisher
06-05-2006, 09:09 PM
14 bootleggers got pinched at Motor City 2 weeks ago. Bootlegging is on the way out...

Scott Story
06-05-2006, 09:34 PM
I've seen young people with portfolios at conventions. Of course, since they took so many of the art classes out of public schools, most of these young people are way behind where they used to be. Yes, there are exceptions, as in really talented young people or school systems that still educate, but they are exceptions. That's my take.

scherzo
06-05-2006, 11:17 PM
the bootleggers are starting to get in trouble...thus the noted lack of that sort of activity lately.
Yep. Watched a guy get walked out in cuffs a couple of years ago at Javits Center. I guess the cons are losing their outlaw vibe.

As for the missing young artists...I'm cool with it. Too many dudes out there already kicking my butt. Let the young people get into something useful...like good old fashioned manual labor. :banana: Think how much they'll learn about anatomy when their muscles cut from all the heavy lifting. :p

-scherzo

MARK A ROBINSON
06-06-2006, 07:28 AM
yeah- i noticed the con was downsized this year - and basically i think it has ALOT to do with the crackdown on bootlegs

All in all it was an awesome show!I was pretty busy down in artist alley- didn't see to much of the show- i had a couple of youngsters show me portfolios (and "oldheads?")...I looked at alot of the Wildstorm Gen13 samples-

Some of my highlights were-

getting to hang out and chat with fans and my alley neighbors- I actually want to give a shout out to Mike Dolan- who is perhaps one of the most interesting fans i have ever met- Mike you are a well of comicbook knowledge! it was a pleasure sir.

seeing some old friends- and getting great advice!

getting some positive feedback and momentum for my indie book COCKFIGHT.

the burger king storm trooper was too funny.

cheesesteaks.

whoever that chick was in the Emma Frost costume. sweet.

doing sketches- favorites- Venom, Hawkgirl and Starfire, Scarecrow.

the cool ass toe tag sketch @ APE- they drew a characture of you dead.

going to catch a movie- The Proposition- which is BADASS btw.

can't wait to do it again! Hopefully i'll see some familiar faces in Chicago!

Best,
M.

T.J. May
06-06-2006, 08:35 AM
Glad to hear you had a good show Mark. As for us it was the worst BIG show we've ever done in terms of sales. We were stuck in the part of artist's alley that was blocked by the all of autographed guests. Other than a few larger pros (who didn't do great either) the rest of us in those three rows had a real rough time. The traffic through those asiles was dismal. The people I got to stop, generally bought, but there just was no one coming through.

But, we got a Vertigo editor to actually read our book Friday night and give us feedback Saturday morning. That was very cool. A bunch of other editors took our stuff and we made some headway in terms or maybe findig a publishing partner to get more of our ideas out, more often. So, professionally it was one of our better shows.

We also had dinner with Darrick Robertson, Buddy Scalera and the guys from After Hours Press, and a Cultural Anthropologist named Stanford from Johns Hopkins U. Saturday night. It was a hell of a night for conversations, but beware China town. The Curry chicken ravished my body and I was all but dead for the con Sunday (which probably didn't help the sales end of things either).

It was the first time I'd hung out with Darrick and he was very cool. He showed a lot of interest in our work and took some home with him to read. If he likes it he'll mention it on his blog, so that's cool. Incidentally, this review came out last week as the con started http://www.thefourthrail.com/reviews/critiques/052906/catchingluciferslunch.shtml

My best
--T

DannoE
06-06-2006, 09:18 AM
I'll have my own review of the Con up by tomorrow, featuring our very own TJ ^^^. In the meantime, I came up light on pictures of booth girls. Did anyone take any good ones? I need one for a specific section of the review.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Here's Part 1 (http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn.php?ColumnID=122)

T.J. May
06-06-2006, 12:03 PM
Looks good DAN. Drop me a line if you need me to answer any more questins :har:

DannoE
06-06-2006, 12:08 PM
Looks good DAN. Drop me a line if you need me to answer any more questins :har:
Thanks TJ. I will drop you a line, but I have at least 10 days work between now and then. I haven't read CLL yet, but you can tell Jason that his paints look amazing!

DannoE
06-07-2006, 11:40 AM
Part 2 of my re-cap:

http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn2.php?ColumnID=123

Thanks and enjoy the Con girls. :banana:

jimmycakes
06-07-2006, 10:52 PM
Yeah man... slowest con ever for us. The flow just didn't hit our area. Usually we're swamped. No one walked by. It's not that they didnt' stop, but no one walked by. Weird.

Usually I get hit up by a slew of kids, middle agers and such trying to get us to "sign" them. LOL!!

This year, I got this old guy showing me his book and it was a little weird... But that's the only art I saw this time around.

We had a bunch of fun anyway. Especially with the After Hours guys and other pros we met. I was lucky enough to chill with a few letterers and an editor from marvel. Good men.

uncle wya
06-08-2006, 10:05 AM
Over all it was a good con, I stayed pretty busy. There was slow traffic here and there but really I can't complain. I had a few people show me their art, no kids, young dudes but no kids. there are some great artists out there with no work. I was impressed. I took breaks from the table a few times to walk around the con and it was kind of boring. Artists Alley was the best thing going for it. The con just seemed small.
I would hang out with people for dinner but then go back to the Hotel and hang with artists and work on commissions.We would draw until 2 or 3 am. I woke up one morning with two numb fingers. It scared the hell outta me. It went away after a few hours of sketching with my pinky out. Oh and China town was great, Malaysian food is fricken tasty.

WyA

DungeonMasterJm
06-08-2006, 11:30 AM
I was kinda pissed that I couldn't go because of my new job where I work every other weekend - and Philly was a weekend I had to work. But my friends went.

They didn't seem to come back with all that great of stories. They are fans but I did ask them to show my comic around if they had the chance. My buddy that did said that the pro's they tried to show it to didn't want to look at it. Oh, well. :(

They didn't seem to get much stuff there and had some downer stories about one of our friends that they hadn't travelled with before.

I almost feel glad that I didn't go. Almost.

DM Jim

jimmycakes
06-09-2006, 08:38 PM
Over all it was a good con, I stayed pretty busy. There was slow traffic here and there but really I can't complain. I had a few people show me their art, no kids, young dudes but no kids. there are some great artists out there with no work. I was impressed. I took breaks from the table a few times to walk around the con and it was kind of boring. Artists Alley was the best thing going for it. The con just seemed small.
I would hang out with people for dinner but then go back to the Hotel and hang with artists and work on commissions.We would draw until 2 or 3 am. I woke up one morning with two numb fingers. It scared the hell outta me. It went away after a few hours of sketching with my pinky out. Oh and China town was great, Malaysian food is fricken tasty.

WyA

China town kicked T.J. where it hurts. :fart:

I had some fantastic noodle soup! :carrot:

GW.Fisher
06-11-2006, 11:38 AM
I had a great show sales-wise, even after turning down $500.00 for my entire batch of ShadowHawk pages. Sat next to Mark Sparacio & Billy Tucci, with Franchescoso right around the corner, so traffic was good.

Con was smaller, never occured to me that the bootleg crackdown was behind it, but it certainly makes sense.

chaosgoat
06-13-2006, 10:58 PM
I have yet to even be to ONE Comic book convention. My first con was Segui-Con, an anime convention... I'm jealous. But even at Segui, I was toting around my little book of home-made manga!

I think the main problem is this: The art kids are broke. We spend all our time drawing, and we don't get real jobs to buy cars and gas and Con tickets. Or, at least, that's my problem... Alot of the cons are in the bigger cities, and the young artists like me just don't have the resources to get there.

Another big factor is the growing popularity of Anime and Manga. Most of the kids who are into comics at my school are into Japanese comics. We're a small town high school, but we have an Anime Club, by gum. We just can't enough of the stuff.

Meh... Just wait a year or two. You'll see this generation soon enough. The forerunners of Generation Y (as we have be termed) are starting to pour into the cities and colleges, looking for something to do on the weekend.